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RE: bird counting
To: "'CRTech'" <crtech@crtech.org>
Subject: RE: [CRTech] bird counting
From: "Jim Turvaville" <turbo@wayfm.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 10:13:40 -0700
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I'm certainly no mechanical engineer, but that ratio is a typical rule of
thumb for SS towers that are in the "practical" range that you and I see.  
I can only imagine the mechanical issues involved in building a self
supporting structure 2,000 ft. tall!!
The CN Tower in Toronto is the world's tallest tower structure, at 1,815 ft.
5 in. 
But it is made of concrete.
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=112537


          Jim "Turbo" Turvaville, CSRE, CBNT
          Corporate Expansion Specialist
            WAY-FM Media Group, Inc. - Colorado Springs, CO
             Ph: 719-533-0300  Fax:  719-278-4339
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: ka4flx@aol.com [mailto:ka4flx@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:42 AM
To: crtech@crtech.org
Subject: Re: [CRTech] bird counting

 We have one SS tower, under 300' but the legs are about 64' apart, IIRC.
But you mentioned 4-sided & ours has only 3.
 John S. 
    
 -----Original Message-----
 From: turbo@wayfm.com
 To: crtech@crtech.org
 Sent: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 11:25 AM
 Subject: RE: [CRTech] bird counting
 
  For a typical 10:1 ratio on SS towers, it would be 200' at the base.
That height would make a square tower able to be more stable than a
triangular one, but still that would be less than one acre of land. 

          Jim "Turbo" Turvaville, CSRE, CBNT
          Corporate Expansion Specialist
            WAY-FM Media Group, Inc. - Colorado Springs, CO
             Ph: 719-533-0300  Fax:  719-278-4339
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: ka4flx@aol.com [mailto:ka4flx@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:03 AM
To: crtech@crtech.org
Subject: Re: [CRTech] bird counting

 Wow, I wonder how much that study cost us...
 Maybe all tall, guyed, towers should be replaced with self-supported
towers...
 
 I wonder how much land a 2000' seld-supported tower would require...
 John S.
 
    
 -----Original Message-----
 From: bill@waft.org
 To: crtech@crtech.org
 Sent: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 3:47 PM
 Subject: [CRTech] bird counting
 
  The Georgia Association of Broadcasters sent us info on the NPRM for bird
mortality. Here are two astute observations in the report: 
 
 That all other things being equal, taller towers with lights tend to
represent more of a 
 hazard to birds than shorter, unlit towers; 
 
 That towers with guy wires create higher risks than self-supporting towers;

 
 
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